London's Burning

[Casperuk]

and i don't mean the TV show from the 80's

i watching places i go though to get to work getting turned into a war zone. now places i work near are getting trashed. not sure what the hell is going on but we can't be lead to believe this is all over the shooting of a 29 year guy.

people are raiding PC Worlds and burning shops and houses.

i was joking last night the whole thing will be remembered by who the **** loots a carpet right. which was also treading on twitter.

now look at it.

as i type this it's all over london, wood green, enfield and ponders end in the north of london i work between the latter. and now SW london westfields and Brixton.

madness

[Blaster]

That's what happens when you don't clamp down on the up rising, seriously I don't understand your Policing, I really don't. The Charging down and dart formation of attacking the trouble causers, never seems to be in the logic of the UK Police force. What makes me laugh even more, is the Chief Inspector (all be it not Rowan Atkinson) draws a thin blue line here, stating and I Quote "we were out in force expecting this kind of trouble" and did sweet FA with the Police and riot Police in place! Instead they watched on has lively hoods were wrecked and burnt down. Oh and these Idiots doing that, the so called back bone of England, laughed and danced, drunk beer and and partied whilst doing so. This so called back bone should have been working? Of course, now ask yourselves who's going to be paying for all this. England has truly become a ****hole to this ethnic violence or tolerance. Germany have started slowly but surely to rise above the Stigma of being Nazi's IF and When something happens to a none German, I don't give two monkeys if you white Yellow, Black Brown or Orange like Katie Price, I see you bashing some guys head in, breaking windows, I'll warn you then i'll beat you to the floor by all means necessary then put you in the Van and have colleagues ask questions later, it is that simple. This riot started over a wrongful shooting, a known Drug dealer with gang leader status, IF it was a mistake then, those making the arrest should be brought to justice, not the life and very stock of innocent working people, btw the race card has also been played here, which is outrageous as usual, all because he was a father!! So he was Robbing, stealing and dealing, to put his Child in a better Ghetto? He was not looking for trouble, but had a Gun in a sock - for shoe protection? This is truly unfair to average joe, who has just lost his shop and future? Because some scum bag has been brought to justice, and to make matters worse in Spud Town, their football team stinks as well!!

[Casperuk]

the police are not allowed to attack. ever since the 80's tbf. the student protests a while back which saw that guy "killed" by a policeman has made it worse.

and it's against the rioters human rights to be shot at with rubber bullets or water cannons

what i have been told is, the police went in and told shop keepers to close up and expect trouble. then they stood back. and let it happen

[Blaster]

"A mate what about the Police over there? - Ah never mind the statistics, their not allowed to keep the peace, just observe if it's going the right way" Human rights, for thugs rioters and trouble causer should be only extend as far as one can spit (in this particular situation). What's the need for Locking up shop, insurance reasons. Yep better to lock up and have the goods stolen through the shop window as to leave the door open and let the shop possibly take lesser damage or not <- Sarcasms. All in all laughable. A Shambles some justice systems. The apparent long arm of the law, seems to get shorter and shorter, Thanks to some people who think it's ok to smash and grab, plunder and do damage,as long as their not hurting anyone!! As soon as missiles or Police are harmed, then Human rights should be waved to a certain degree or we just sit back and watch London burn again and again. The possible Domino effect is without boundaries but we as politicians and Human rights activists condone this, and I repeat as we see London burning again and again and again.

"the student protests a while back which saw that guy "killed" by a policeman has made it worse"
So the poor Officer who was hacked to death in the riot before the Delinquent students rampage, is of no concern here then. Sad state of affairs, two rights don't make a wrong (i think thats how you say it) all in all protest by all means, but for a lousy drug dealer, come on people. Lets not forget, the Gun in his sock was for let's say to his own interest, which any Human rights Activist will tell you is well within his rights, after all it was his sock!

[Casperuk]

not saying it's right to stand by and watch.

what they will be doing is using the vast amount of cameras to just round people up. people who didn't cover their faces or left DNA will be found. the shops are covered for their goods. no point to risk the welfare of the police officers in the line of fire.

what i didn't like is the fact that peoples homes were burnt, these people will lose everything. there goods are covered but the personal effects aren't they should have stepped in with that

[Blaster]

not saying it's right to stand by and watch.

what they will be doing is using the vast amount of cameras to just round people up. people who didn't cover their faces or left DNA will be found. the shops are covered for their goods. no point to risk the welfare of the police officers in the line of fire.

what i didn't like is the fact that peoples homes were burnt, these people will lose everything. there goods are covered but the personal effects aren't they should have stepped in with that

That's the problem with UK and their resources and funding. Cameras and DNA testing, add to that Te Riot Police and Firebrigade just standing around, plus the Ambulances and Hospitals on red alert...now that can't be cheap. Now I am not sure how it works there, but that kind of work hast to be done by Forensics and your CID which in all is a much greater cost. The rate of success I'd beg to differ, but none the less.It's not right period.

Maybe I see this with a certain tunnel vision, who knows. Just makes me sick to the back bone when I hear the Human rights thing some of the times. Two Police Officers have been charged over here and found guilty and maybe discharged etc. because they threatened a kidnapper with Violence if he did not tell them where young lad was they'd abducted, fact that the lad had already be strangled to death, before they were caught, seems to be of no importance here, as his Humans rights were infringed in the interrogation, the fact being an Officer Father of 2 saying "come on lets us know, or I'll give you a slap" wow Humans right seems to bend the law not work with it. Now some might say, where do we start and where does it stop, common sense shouzld be a factor for an Officer serving over 30 Years, dealing with such idiots, but apparently not. Crying shame.

[Casperuk]

i don't get the whole human rights thing at all.

it doesn't benefit the public a great deal, but allows criminals to be as bad as they like and they know they can't get a slap for it or kept in a lockup for more than x amount of hours.

[Blaster]

i don't get the whole human rights thing at all.

it doesn't benefit the public a great deal, but allows criminals to be as bad as they like and they know they can't get a slap for it or kept in a lockup for more than x amount of hours.

Human rights are often expressed and guaranteed by law or judging law. <- How amusing is that right there.

Human rights a way back was for third world countries and so on, so the UN and Red Cross could help those in need, in war zones. The band wagon has been cleverly bent to inner Cities, where Ethnic background is a big issue.This is lobbied in parliament, well lets say it's Political elite try to get in there, and how? with votes!! Basically left wing winge bags saying hey welcome to this country, you have the same rights and more, and remember which band wagon to join if and when you get to vote. There you have it, Human rights within a wealthy land other used and abused by clever so and so's. Which is then dragged through the puddle back and fourth and not just by the minority either. What happens when it gets out of hand, some spokesman or Politician comes on the News reading from a piece of paper, typed up by a clever secatary with a better IQ than his and says "we condone the riots in spud town and we are confident we can sort this out either through community policing or leaders, who have assured us that this will not happen again until the week after next" A very Sad state of affairs.

Spud Town was far from a war town, just a lot of out of work, dealers and bums basically trying to make a statement for a fallen Comrade "aka Drug dealer and want not" This is beyond ridiculous. Fine Family and friends are distraught but fact of the matter is "thy went there told them to shut up shop, as there is likely to be trouble" and then they step back and hope Big Brother can bag them some bad boys. Truly comical.

[Wreck and Rule]

All kicking off in Birmingham at the moment. They've smashed up my favourite bacon sandwich shop.

My office is right in the middle of all this business. I'm glad I left work when I did.

[Casperuk]

All kicking off in Birmingham at the moment. They've smashed up my favourite bacon sandwich shop.

My office is right in the middle of all this business. I'm glad I left work when I did.

can't be having that